A Question for Readers

In my last post, I wrote that men should engage in endeavors both cooperative and solo to build themselves and each other up in ways that are not vulnerable to capture.  I want to mention a thing I did, but most of all I want to solicit reader opinion on things that would do what I was attempting, but more and better.

I had four guys over a few nights and we set up an assembly line to churn out egg-sausage-pepper-cheese breakfast burritos.  Near the end of our “shift,” I asked if anyone had seen the Gilette ad.  I then shut my mouth as various virtue-signaling things came out, but two guys stuck around and we had a three-hour conversation where I dribbled out some manosphere wisdom from my (surprisingly copious) store.

It was great.  Now these guys (and I) are eating good food, on the cheap, and we built male friendships.

Reader thoughts on other cooperative ventures I could do with other men that would bring mutual benefit, would be appreciated.


  1. djz242013 says:

    I know ur mormon and not catholic (which you should change btw Catholic Church is the one true church) but something like this seems fairly related to what youre looking for, since it is required to be done as a “fraternity” of men: https://exodus90.com/

  2. Oldřich says:

    I’d say that the crucial point is that the work has to be needed and has to be reasonably well organized, but apart from that I would suggest landscaping, gardening, and any other stuff that “connects to the soil”.

    If you do it communally, on land exposed to public eye, the added advantage is that you are making a certain statement. People can recognize spaces that are tended to and the personal and direct care gives a certain quality to the space that your average mall distinctly lacks.

    The complication is that you shouldn’t be stupid about the work, else you are just making everything worse. The stance that people mostly adopt is to identify “problems” and buy stuff to get rid of the “problems”, which will not make any space more beautiful.

    I mean like – plant raspberries and let the kids at them.

  3. Bookslinger says:

    If you’re talking about building relationships…

    As I recommended at JrGanymede, get the book “This Land of Strangers” by Robert E. Hall, and read chapters 11 and 13. About $7 used, including s/h at Amazon from third party sellers.

    Some of my highlights from chapter 13:

    ****** Worthy purpose.

    Relational leader is continually clarifying and refining purpose as a force for growing the connections among stakeholders and the organization.

    The single most important relational act of a leader is translating a worthy purpose into meaning that invites and inspires shared effort and productive outcomes.

    …to work together, relational leaders are highly intentional and persistent in selecting and connecting the task at hand to the larger purpose.

    Relational leaders constantly battle to shift the attention from narrow, inward-looking, selfish interest to make purpose the prevailing shared thought of the organization.

    Purpose serves as the lubricant for reconciling disagreements, the energy source to overcome fatigue, the glue for splintered groups, and the point of focus, for the bored and distracted. … it elevates the mission so group members do not allow differences to subvert it.

    Relational leadership starts with purpose that unites and moves us.

    ****** Sacrifice authenticates purpose.

    ****** Shared purposeful sacrifice is a powerful uniting force.

    Atitudes are infectious, both positive and negative.

    Four tenets:
    – higher purpose,
    – stakeholder orientation,
    – conscious leadership,
    – conscious culture.

    Invite and engage stakeholders.
    Enlist those who seem invisible, indifferent, or difficult to be with.
    … the cost of incommitted, absent followers is just too high.

    Peer committment and accountability…. (because it is) powerful and lasting.

  4. Bookslinger says:

    SPD, if my comment is still in the pending-queue, could you please email it back to me? If that’s doable, please.

    1. Hey Books, sorry, it was in the spam queue. I have approved it but not emailed it to you. How would you like me to proceed?

  5. Bookslinger says:

    thx. no further action needed. I can get it from here.
    and i hope it added to the thread.

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